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Hi!

Can you tell me how to deal with the fact that it's impossible to model divider under dynamic wave; only with kinematic, but that brings problem of more then one outlet or adverse slope?

Problem is quite simple - flow above 5 lps (per example) shoud go directly to outfall(rain) and the rest shoud go in some tank and then through pump on another outfall (wastewater treatment) - simple model of wastewater and rain solution.

Thanks in advance!

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Hi Vasenka,

It would be nicer to have the dividers work in dynamic wave but in the meantime you can use an Outlet link to simulate your needs.  

node divider ---- flow over 5 lps ---> Oufall

                flow under 5 lps ---> Tank --> Pump ---> WWTP

I will show you in a model in a few minutes.

Here is an example model with outlet that divides the flow into under 5 lps and over 5 lps outlet links - i hope this  helps.

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Can you please attach *.inp file so I can check it further more?

Do you have any idea how to model it under dynamic wave because in some situations I need both options (dynamic and divider) available in same model? Or should I try with weir?

Thank you very much, this helps a lot!

This is a v22 of SWMM 5 File

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Thank you very very much, this is exactly what I needed :)

I am still new in SWMM, so some issues still concerns me about appropriate modelling; thank you for being such helpful.

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