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How is the St Venant Equation Solved for in the Dynamic Wave Solution of SWMM 5?

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I want to import ArcGIS data into SWMM. How can I do this? If possible I want to include SWMM into ArcGIS as add-in, any help?

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Comment by Rui Daniel Pina on February 10, 2012 at 4:48am

inp.PINS worked just fine! Kashif, Please see the message I send you with my results data.

The data you send me needed to be "SWMM formated". I did some of this:

1 - Assign invert elevation to nodes from links shp - GIS join;

2 - Define MaxDepth - GIS table attribute edit: "SURFACE_LV - INVLEVEL";

3 - Define Link shape, Geom1 and Geom2 - GIS table attribute edit (see more info about inp standards at SWMM manual [XSECTIONS]);

4 - As TagKey references have some connection errors (see inp errors in SWMM): some links have no upstream (inlet) and downstream (outlet) nodes. I used inpTools --> FromNode/ToNode assign to link shp to generate "FROMNODE1" and "TONODE1" columns in the link shp with the nodes ASSETID and 0.1m tolerance, although there are links with no nodes at upstream or downstream. You can also use inpTools --> Create Node Shp from Link Shp to generate all this nodes and them assign the information you have already in the point shp with a spatial join.

Other GIS work still needed to be done, as for example interpolations to correct missing values, generate and characterize subcatchments, connect them to nodes (see also inpTools --> Subcatchments connection), define conduits roughness, etc.

Hope this helps! This is a nice example, thank you and congratulations.

Regards,

Rui Pina

Comment by Kashif Ali on January 29, 2012 at 3:18pm

Thanks Rui,

I just solved the problem by accident - installed 32 and 64 bit versions of Mapwindow + the active X and then the inp.PINS.

Now, the nodes file is successfully transed, however, there are problems with links (conduits) file

again, it has got 30,000+ entries

I would like to seek your advise please, as around 6,000 pipes are missing with some data (US IL/DSIL/dia) which are to be input by judgement immediate u/s and d/s conduits (surveyor couldnt access the pits)

Can you please advise on this issue although it is not related to software itself

Just send the .inp files on you page and now uploading .shp files to share with you

Comment by Rui Daniel Pina on January 28, 2012 at 8:40pm
Can you please send me the file to understand the problem?
Thanks.
Comment by Kashif Ali on January 26, 2012 at 12:30am

Further to describe the problem,

after assigning the shp file, as soon I hit the Maki INP button it stops working and

Can you plz advise where I go wrong.

 

Thanks 

Comment by Kashif Ali on January 26, 2012 at 12:11am

Hi Rui,

 

It seems to be a good application, but due to the large data I have got, inp.PINS stopped working (seemingly)

 

Any solution to this?

 

http://www.mapwindow.org/apps/wiki/doku.php?id=inp.pins

instead of

http://mapwingis.codeplex.com

Comment by Rui Daniel Pina on January 25, 2012 at 9:40am

Thanks Kashif.

inp.PINS don't have any maximum limit, might work with 10,000 nodes. Please let me know how it works and fell free to send me any suggestions.

Comment by Kashif Ali on January 25, 2012 at 9:15am

Hi there,

Nice and useful conversation

Was planing to translate a shapfile with 10,000 nodes into swmm

 

Comment by Rui Daniel Pina on December 7, 2011 at 5:02am

All suggestions and bug reports are welcome! inp.PINS is a on-going project that I invite all of you to be a part of this project by sending me your feedback.

Thanks!

Comment by yasert on December 7, 2011 at 4:40am

u r welcome MeHa. I think so.

Comment by yasert on December 7, 2011 at 4:38am

ur

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